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Does anyone know the gestation (length) of an Elven pregancy? 
15th-Jul-2004 12:15 pm
Does anyone know the gestation (length) of an Elven pregancy?
15th-Jul-2004 09:24 am (UTC)
"as long as appropriate and necessary in your campaign".
15th-Jul-2004 09:27 am (UTC)
This is for some character development. So it was in my characters past so I need more of a month/year time frame. (She might be looking for some unknown siblings later.)
15th-Jul-2004 09:25 am (UTC)
I think it's listed in the Complete Guide to Carnal Knowledge. Good free book that, includes all sorts of fun rules for d20 sexual encounters.
15th-Jul-2004 09:28 am (UTC)
Where would I be able to find this book?
15th-Jul-2004 09:30 am (UTC)
I forget. I've got a copy on my server at home, but I'm nowhere near home, and I'd unplugged it before I left to prevent tampering, so I can't retrieve it at this point. I'd suggest googling for it, because I know it was hosted at one of the larger RPG resource sites.
15th-Jul-2004 09:26 am (UTC)
I remember seeing a whole treatise on elven courting, marriage, and childbirth, supposedly quoting Tolkien as a reference, somewhere on the web, but naturally I don't have the URL for you, I'm sorry. I think it said either 12 or 24 months; Of course, in the absence of actual game rules, it's ultimately up to the gamemaster.
15th-Jul-2004 09:35 am (UTC)
Ah, found it in the GUCK. 18 months. Sounds reasonable.

15th-Jul-2004 10:06 am (UTC)
I have just the book.

The Book of Erotic Fantasy. (Dont bother checking with those other bullshit books. They are just joke books poking fun at sex in D&D. The BOEF however takes a serious tone and approach).

Here is what you're looking for, from page 24

Elven Pregnancy and Childbirth:
Elves are noted for having one of the logest gestation times of all humanoid species-a full two years. However, pregnancy is a sacreed and harmonious time between mother and child, as the two bond on an almost psychic level. Childbirth is gentle and easy on both the child and mother. However, due to their fragile constituitons, femals must wait another five years before they can become pregnant again.
Among the other humanoid races, elves can succssfully crossbreed only with hugams. Scholors do not know why this is the case, although some have made contraversial setatements that humans descended from elves long ago and have enough in common genetically for half-breeds to occur.

Now, Obviously the above is not tied to any specific game setting. And MOST game settings (at least WOTC ones) intentionally leave out this information (as far as i can tell or remember)

The BOEF is published under the Open Gaming License. Its fully compatible with "The worlds best selling fantasy game" aka Dungeons and Dragons.

If you have any more sexually related questions for D&D orFantasy roleplay stuff, feel free to go to www.valarproject.org and join their forums.
15th-Jul-2004 12:44 pm (UTC) - Bah.
That's seriously bordering on trolling...

While the BOEF might be more serious, BOEF came long after GUCK, which was written by fans, who felt it was handy to compile some homebrew rules, and it grew from there. Yes, Guck is a bit of a joke, but the people who wrote it put a fair bit of effort into making the rules reasonably playable. It's more designed to put

Taking D20 sex too seriously is creepy.
15th-Jul-2004 01:07 pm (UTC) - Re: Bah.
not at all.

First off sex is not a joke, its a serious thing.

Products that consider the d20 system a joke and dont take the rules seriously suck.

the BOEF is simply a product that takes a mature approach to the rules.

From the flavor text thats written generically for any campaign setting, to the well balanced feats and prestige classes.

And BOEF has a sense of humor too, its not so serious as to be stiff. (hehe, get it? stiff?)

There are free excerpts from the pre-playtested version on the site.

I'm a writer, i take all rules seriously. (Well, unless its a book ment to be a joke, ala Son of Portable Hole)
15th-Jul-2004 01:20 pm (UTC) - Re: Bah.
The d20 system isn't a joke, and I don't think there is anything in the GUCK book that indicates that it considers the D20 system is a joke. That's your personal bias.

The d20 system is like Lego. Many cool little blocks that you can put together to build what you see in your head.

Let's take it from a different perspective. Which set of rules fills her requirements better?

Since she just needs a quick answer for a character background, I'd suggest that the GUCK is better, since it's available free online. The other, requires a trip to the book store, and probably has quite a bit of things that won't get used for a while.

And this might just be my opinion, but, sex is a joke. You just might not be getting it.

Also, and this is a personal preference, I dislike the flavor text that I've seen from the BOEF. I'm not really sure why, but I think it might be because it comes across really arrogant. Then again, I haven't read the whole book, that's just from the sample you posted.
15th-Jul-2004 07:51 pm (UTC) - Re: Bah.
Doesn't matter anyway, my DM isn't allowing me to have younger sibling. :(
15th-Jul-2004 07:53 pm (UTC)
And MOST game settings (at least WOTC ones) intentionally leave out this information (as far as i can tell or remember)

Actually, the best way (I'd say "only mature" way if didn't want to be civil) to treat sex and reproduction in roleplaying games is how White Wolf does it--a small section in the appropriate rules section, not an accessory unto itself.

While I repsect Anthony, it's too much of a twist to say that the BoEF is any more "mature" than NGUCK or Mongoose's Nymphology or Quintessential Temptress (OTOH, it's certainly more serious than Mongoose's offerings.)

I tell ya what: if I ever get AASB finished and published, I'll be sure to include the appropriate appendix for sexuality and reproduction. (A simple perform skill, some notes on magic and dishonset skills being used, some simple states of arousal, and an easy way to roll for pregnancy and ability scores.)
15th-Jul-2004 12:30 pm (UTC)
Either Dragon magazine or a dragonlance book said it was twelve months. I believe it was probably one of the early 3E Dragon magazines (one covered elves in some detail), but I can't remember which.
15th-Jul-2004 04:59 pm (UTC)
From what I see of these responses, I guess it depends on the writer. I mean, honestly, how can you possibly know who's right? Go find an elf and ask them! (Sorry, that's the scientist in me) In the absence of any elves, I'd say your guess is as good as anyone else's. I mean, who'se going to correct you? None of MY friends have ever met an elf before. ;)
18th-Jul-2004 09:13 am (UTC)
you know, not that it matters at this point, but damn that was a big mess about books. the easiest thing to do is ask the dm, because, as we all know, dms are MADE for arbitrary stuff like that and usually love doing it. i'm not going to get into any book argument, but the guck is a classic, even with the jokes. sure, it's 2e and doesn't suit everyone, but that's what the ogl is for. let's not argue about which book is better, because in the end that's up to the game and the dm, isn't it? jeez. all this for a pregnant elf.
19th-Jul-2004 06:40 am (UTC)
The norm is two years... but can also be up to the DM of course.
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