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I was thinking about switching to D&D 3.5 from 3.0, but I want to… 
15th-Apr-2004 11:11 am
I was thinking about switching to D&D 3.5 from 3.0, but I want to first get some advice. Is it worth the switch? I really don't want to wast my money if i don't have to.
15th-Apr-2004 08:17 am (UTC)
I don't think it's that big of a change. but, everything from now on will be written for 3.5, not 3.0. So, I guess it depends on how much you use your own stuff. I'ld say it's about 85% the same.
15th-Apr-2004 08:24 am (UTC) - It depends...
I think that the PHB for 3.5 is critical. The enhancements to character classes, skills, feats and spells is absolutely worth it. The Monster manual includes some new templates, which do allow for more interesting play. The dungeon masters guide is better with more information - but is not as critical as the PHB.

My two cents. I bought all three as soon as they were available.
15th-Apr-2004 08:26 am (UTC)
3.0 good.
3.5 much better. it completely revamps the DR system so its not worthless. The Ranger is hella worth it now as is the bard. Barbaians and monks got tweaked.

The DMG has material from the manuel of the planes, epic lvl handbook, and about 20 or so prestige classes revamped and better. The mundane item list is now comprehensive and good.

The MM is adjusted slightly, but better. For example skeletons and zombies are now templates to add to any creature (its done well).

Also if you have any of the other 3.0 books (like the MM2 oand such) the conversions are free on the WotC web page.
15th-Apr-2004 08:49 am (UTC)
other than the fact that the stat spells (bulls strength, cat's grace, etc...) got changed to being minutes in 3.5 instead of the 1 hour a level in 3.5, i'm all about the changes. especially Identify actually fully identifying an item instead of the 'most basic ability' as was in 3.0

check the SRD to look at the changes. that'll give you a better idea.

15th-Apr-2004 09:52 am (UTC)
Well the systems themselves really are the same, so it's not so much of a switch I don't think. I know 3.5 has gotten a lot of crap for that reason.

Personally I like 3.5 a lot better. It's cleaner, first of all. From a player's perspective it's much better, since all the classes are more powerful and there are more prestige classes and stuff. I didn't DM a game in 3.0, so I'm not sure if 3.5 is any different. I think that what has been done with Monsters and templates and stuff is very nice, and as was said above, all new material that comes out will be working with the 3.5 system.

What I would do is go to your local game store and flip through the books. Look at the changed classes, the new feats, the and the skill descriptions in the PHB. Look through the Monsters Manual and the DMG. See if you think that you would use enough of the new books in your game that you want to spend money on them.

It's a good idea, but definately not necessary.
15th-Apr-2004 01:37 pm (UTC) - A beautiful day in the neighborhood
It's not worth spending the money. There are not enough real changes to make it worth spending $35 for. Dragon magazine touted a whole bunch of changes but when the books came out, none of it was worth it. My players complained that instead of bonus feats, they got issued feats. They prefered to choose their own. Don't switch unless you get a PHG for your birthday.
15th-Apr-2004 01:40 pm (UTC) - Re: A beautiful day in the neighborhood
thats more or less what I wanted to hear.

thanks a lot :)
15th-Apr-2004 03:05 pm (UTC) - 3.5 changes
I think it's worth the upgrade if you buy the boxed-set of three books together at a discount (Dungeons & Dragons Core Rulebook Gift Set).

Expect some changes to characters, especially regarding spells. Some spells that got a fairly large overhaul: all the ability increase spells (owl's wisdom, bull's strength, etc.), heal and harm, haste, to name a few. Players may not like how these spells have changed.
15th-Apr-2004 04:28 pm (UTC)
Personally I found the changes in the PHB to be well worth changing to. The DMG and MM much less so; MM main difference is damage reduction is now manageable; if you don't have the right weapon you still can have some chance rather than none. The changes to the classes are pretty much all great, and it pretty much illiminates the "hop into it for 1 level" thing that a few of the classes(notably ranger) had. We just converted over about 2 months ago on our campaign, and it's really made a difference to how everyone has felt about their character(except the cleric-almost no change there).

The free conversion guide was as much use as a chocolate "Flaming Brand"; we printed it all out and tried to go through altering things as we went, in the end it was worth £20 to not have to attempt to do that.

Having said all that, 3rd ed was OK, and if you're budget is really tight then it may not be worth it. It's a bit like software patches, 3 was fine 3.5 is great, but do you need the fix?

Download the pdf(I didn't say that honest) from Kazaa and have a look before buying it perhaps, that's what we did and there's no way they'd have made the sale otherwise.
15th-Apr-2004 05:47 pm (UTC)
I was a new player when the books came out and for a while I was playing in two campaigns - a 3.0 and a 3.5. Since the 3.0 campaign didn't last too long, I can't say much about it, but I do know that I love the 3.5 system. That's my two cents, from a player who basically started on 3.5. I would not be happy if I had to go back, even though I do have the 3.0 PHB and several of the other 3.0 books. I just love 3.5.
16th-Apr-2004 05:50 am (UTC) - 3.0 or 3.5
Since I'm pretty new to gaming (4 years now) I hadn't bought a PHB until the 3.5 one came out, but having used the 3.0 edition I know the difference. I'd say that the 3.5 is better, but instead of shelling out $35 to get the new book take a look on Wizards.com I know that the updates for the 3.0 to 3.5 PHB are on there same as for the DMG and the MM. If you have the money to be spending and wasting though I strongly suggest that you buy the box set...
16th-Apr-2004 06:02 am (UTC) - Re: 3.0 or 3.5
i'll just go to Stiggybaby.com then i can get the set 30% off
16th-Apr-2004 08:13 am (UTC) - an easy way to upgrade
when i decided that i wanted to switch from 3.0 to 3.5 i just started checking out gaming websites such as wizards of the cost and codemonkeypublishing. if your not worried about having the books it's just as easy to download the e-tools program for $30 at codemonkey and then get the e-tools bundle set's for all the 3.5 books each of the books are download patches that cost about 2.50-$10 a piece and they have all the things the normal books have. altho i don't kno how good it would be for some things as i don't have all of those yet but it's an alternative. also you could go to sites and just attempt to download the books. but if you want the books it's easier to just go with purchasing the coreset, and if your not worried about them being brandnew books use sites like amazon or something.
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