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more d20 two weapon fighting questions 
2nd-Sep-2009 04:00 am
Hiro from Heroes
lets say I am a martial artist with an attack of +14/+8, and Living Weapon 1D8+Str.

Living Weapon states that there is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a martial artist while attacking unarmed.

therefore there should be no penalties for attacking with both hands in one round.

so my question is; does this make my attack:

+14, +14, +8, +8? I get four attacks each round (2 with each hand) because my BAB is +14/+8, and because of it not being considered an off-hand attack. this would make sense to me since the martial artist only does 1d8 so they get 4 attacks to make up for the lower damage.

please get back to me asap and thanks in advance
2nd-Sep-2009 08:54 am (UTC)
okay, lets say i have two weapon fighting and improved two weapon fighting.

then it would be +12 / +12 / +6 / ?

what attack is the 2nd off hand attack based on? +14 or +8?
2nd-Sep-2009 05:17 pm (UTC)

The +7 is the +12 attack with your unpenalised "off hand" -5.

I guess that looks odd because your attack bonus is +14/+8, which isn't possible in D&D (they are always 5 apart): I don't know D20 modern so I don't know if Martial Artist is affecting that.

2nd-Sep-2009 05:29 pm (UTC)
In D20 once you get a bab of +6, you get +6/+1. so its 6 off instead of 5 off.

the +12 attack is normally +12 without any penalties, so shouldn't it be +12/ +12/ +6/ +9 (14 - 5) ?
2nd-Sep-2009 05:37 pm (UTC)
6-1 is 5!

The -5 from Improved Two Weapon Fighting is cumulative with the -2 penalty for using a light weapon (i.e. unarmed) in (what yould be) your off hand. I'm not sure if I've assumed you have Living Weapon too, hang on...
2nd-Sep-2009 05:42 pm (UTC)
yeah i automatically get living weapon 1d8+str for being a martial artists.

i dont think we have ever had the improved twf and the -2 add together, we just had a forth attack w/ -5 from your highest attack.

I messed up what i said. I meant to say that the +12 attacks are usually 14 w/o the penaltiy. but you got what i said anyways
2nd-Sep-2009 05:48 pm (UTC)
Ok so if you have an attack of +14/+9.

Without any feats (just the advntage of treating your weapons as light), your two handed attack would be +10/+1/ and an extra +5.

TWF unarmed makes it makes it +12/+7 and the extra attack of +12.

Improved TWF adds a second bonus attack at +7

If Living Wesapon works as described then... it won't affect most of the above calculation as by the time you have TWF it does not matter which hand is which.
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