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Rogue Prestige Class 
21st-Feb-2009 05:31 pm
Hi! I'm new to the community and fairly new to D&D... the time is coming soon to start a new campaign which means I'll be building my first character (I'm currently playing as a cohort to learn the rules) and I'm in need of some help!

I'm pretty certain I want to be a rogue, but I'm undecided on what a good prestige class would be for me judging on my interests. Race right now isn't set in stone, nor is alignment... I'm just looking for something that will mesh well. I was initially looking into Arcane Trickster and was on board with that until I realized it's more of a spell casting class that has roguish abilities rather than the other way around. I'm looking for something mainly rogue, possibly not magic related at all.

If anyone has any suggestions for me on what prestige classes are fun/easy/beneficial to work with for rogues, that'd be great! I have access to all of the source books, so feel free to suggest anything :D
21st-Feb-2009 11:32 pm (UTC)
I think that you'll probably need to be a bit more specific as to what you want. So far you have a rogue of unspecified race/alignment with potentially magical interest...or none at all.

What level are you going to be?
Are you looking for a combat-centric role, or a more utilitarian one?
22nd-Feb-2009 01:13 am (UTC)
I'm really not too terribly picky at the moment with the race... alignment, I'd certainly say I prefer the grey area more than one extreme of the spectrum. The character I play now is chaotic neutral, so I'd say nothing too far off that. I tend to despise lawful good characters anyway :P

If you mean what level we'll be starting at, we'd be starting at level 1... it won't be a power campaign. If you mean what level we'd be playing to, I'm thinking at least 15... I don't think we'll hit epic status.

I'd definitely prefer a more combat-centric role with my utilitarian skills coming in handy in the traditional rogue way (disabling traps, etc.) I think that's why I dislike magic casting classes for the most part... I prefer to use physical strength rather than stand from afar and lob fireballs and cast support magic :P

I'm really looking for a solid prestige class that compliments rogues but doesn't require you to dual class... I don't want to spread my character too thin, and I want to take advantage of the rogue's high skill increase.
21st-Feb-2009 11:47 pm (UTC)
What kind of campaign is it?

Lotta cities? Lotta dungeon crawling?
22nd-Feb-2009 01:06 am (UTC)
I'm not sure yet... we're not even talking about the next campaign yet :P We're still trying to finish this one up, but I'm trying to get a heads up on what I'm going to choose.

Judging by the campaigns the DM has chosen in the past, I'd say there's a significant amount of dungeon crawling... that made me think Dungeon Delver, but it's not something I really want to specialize in :P
22nd-Feb-2009 05:07 pm (UTC)
I'd suggest something like Temple Raider. Damn handy in dungeons.
22nd-Feb-2009 12:40 am (UTC)
The Shadowdancer is primarily rogue with some magic abilities relating to shadows. You may be interested in that.
22nd-Feb-2009 01:14 am (UTC)
I was actually looking at Shadowdancer... I'm definitely holding onto that as an option. I think if I don't find anything better I'll be building myself a Shadowdancer :)
22nd-Feb-2009 01:49 am (UTC)
I was going to mention the shadowdancer. It's a fun, versatile class.
22nd-Feb-2009 03:11 am (UTC)
It looks like it. I've never played one, but an unturnable, incorporeal, strength-draining servant? YES PLEASE.
22nd-Feb-2009 03:22 am (UTC)
Depending on your GM and backstory, they may make an allowance for a neutral-aligned assassin. Mine did, and I REALLY enjoyed the class- the spells were a nice complement to the rogue abilities, and I got to keep progressing with sneak attack damage.
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22nd-Feb-2009 07:14 pm (UTC)
More on the combat angle is the Invisible Blade. It limits you two dagger, punching daggers and kukris, and it'll require some fighter levels to achieve with any speed, but the character becomes a sneak attack blender on liquefy mode.
22nd-Feb-2009 03:58 am (UTC)
Rogues are actually a pretty good class to take for 20 levels. Your sneak attack just keeps going up, and the special abilities (e.g. Opportunist) are pretty awesome. Combining those with relevant feats (e.g. Combat Reflexes) can make a pretty devastating character. So you don't necessarily need a prestige class.

However, you might scan through Complete Warrior to see if any of the "style" classes fit you. For example, Invisible Blade (which is badly designed and requires extensive rejiggering) or Master Thrower are good rogue prestige classes for Two-Weapon Fighting (IB) rogues or thrown-weapons rogues (MT).

When I played a rogue, I multiclassed as a wizard, and specialized in the longbow (my character was an elf). I ended up doing Arcane Archer, which is pretty great prc-wise. It's very specific, though (elf-only), so YMMV.

If you're good/exalted, you could look into Slayer of Domiel from the Book of Exalted Deeds -- it's basically a good-aligned assassin.
22nd-Feb-2009 04:02 pm (UTC)
Many roguish prestige classes continue to develop the sneak attack ability, stacking it and the Improved Evasion ability with the rogue abilities. I vaguely recall a rogue prestige class in the Complete Adventure that presented as a street tough with some brutish combat abilities or something. That sounds like what the original poster is interested in exploring.
22nd-Feb-2009 05:28 pm (UTC)
Ah, good point. And Complete Adventurer is another good source for prc's. (I suspect Complete Scoundrel is too, but I don't own it yet.)

But again, it really just depends on what direction you want to take the rogue in.
24th-Feb-2009 11:43 pm (UTC)
I think the street thuggish class was called Streetfighter. It only gets +1d6 sneak attack on the 3rd of 5 levels though I think... which is the only reason I never used it for a true rogue build.

I know that you aren't looking at arcane rogues but I've had fun over the years with Spellward Snipers for Complete Scoundrel. If you decide to go the arcane route that would be a good place to start.

By the way I'm new... so hi everyone.
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