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Rakshasa Question 
20th-Feb-2009 11:17 am
One of my players had a question about the Rakshasa, and I really don't know the answer. I had assumed that when a race has a template under "______ as Characters", that you could apply that template directly without the HD level increase associated with creatures who have an LA entry but no template. (If this were correct, a 10th-level character could be Rakshasa 7/Sorcerer 3, whereas ignoring the template a 10th-level char could not be a Rakshasa at all.)

We don't use large LA PCs often. Am I missing something here? The template says it includes 7 levels of Outsider, does this mean it adds 14 levels? The template definitely seems to give more benefits than 7 levels of Sorcerer would.
20th-Feb-2009 04:50 pm (UTC)
Rakshasa have 7 hit die as monsters. That template says Rakshasa characters start out with those 7 HD. In other words, your Rakshasa example (Rakshasa 7 / Sorcerer 3) has an ECL of 7 + 3 + 7, or 17. The level adjustment +7 is added to their total hit die. It's not a template that you can tack onto a character, like Lich or Half-Celestial, it's a starting package similar to Dwarf or Elf. It just contains the 7 outsider hit die the monster has.

Part of the reason they have such an increase is due to their insanely good ability modifiers, a base speed that is faster than standard races, excellent natural armor, the ability to read thoughts, natural weapons, ridiculous spell resistance, nice damage reduction... you get the picture.
20th-Feb-2009 11:29 pm (UTC)
That's what I figured, but using that logic, a Kobold Sorceror 1 is the equivalent of a Human Sorceror 2. Their LA under the "Kobold Characters" heading is +0, but they have 1 HD. I'm thinking that maybe the HD are only added for races which mention the racial levels...?
21st-Feb-2009 12:37 am (UTC)
If the race in the monster manual has only one hit die, you ignore that Hit Die. This is because the kobold in the monster manual is a first level warrior, like the gnome or elf. Warriors have a d8. That took me a bit to figure out, too.

But yeah, usually they'll mention the racial levels.
20th-Feb-2009 06:29 pm (UTC)
If you cang et your hands on Savage Species, it had a dealie in it for advancing a rakshasa from level one...
20th-Feb-2009 11:04 pm (UTC)
I love that book. Very useful.
20th-Feb-2009 11:51 pm (UTC)
That's what the player tried first, but he got confused by it quickly. Something about Sorcerer levels every other level and instakill holy crossbow bolts. I haven't bothered to read it yet, since he latched onto the MM version.
21st-Feb-2009 12:42 am (UTC)
Well you have to keep in mind that SS is working off the 3.0 version of the monster, so a lot of those versions don't match up.
20th-Feb-2009 11:27 pm (UTC)
*sigh* Will this never die out?

It's Sorcerer. Would you talk about a sorceross?
20th-Feb-2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
Jeepers, I'll edit it. Quit 'Sperging.
21st-Feb-2009 04:54 am (UTC)
Oh, that's a good mnemonic for remembering which one it is! I have trouble with it, for some reason. (Probably the blasted "editor/worker" suffix thing.)
21st-Feb-2009 06:43 am (UTC)
I suppose words like 'Emperor' don't help, either. Still, it seems so simple to me; it's hard to have patience with the proverbial fingernails hitting the chalkboard every time spontaneous spellcasters get discussed in the context of D&D.
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