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Thinking of building a class. 
6th-Aug-2007 12:55 am
Man, I hate to bug y'all, but I'm thinking of building a class for my setting based off of the Casseline Brotherhood in Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel series. If you have read it, awesome, but I hadn't even heard of it until my girlfriend tossed the first book at me, so if you haven't, I bring you wikipedia articles for reference. This one is on the brotherhood itself. This one is the character who's in it, who is a total badass.

What I humbly ask for help on is figuring out how to start building it. They're priests, yes, but they're religious in the way a religious order of knights would be, so more pali than cleric. They are mostly two weapon fighters (daggers only, in the book, but I might allow short sword, too), but are amazingly good with a longsword. So ranger isn't precisely a good starting point, either, and I'm not decided yet on how I'd feel about them having magic. No heavy armor, though, and no shields, generally. They make up for it with heavy steel bracers (will add them to equipment, +1 AC--for the pair, not each--like a shield, feats and class abilities making it even more effective). I just can't figure out a starting point, you know?

At the same time, I realize that this might be better as a prestige. However, I'm in love with the whole idea of this class, and would like to import it more or less intact. They start the training at ten years old, so perhaps a prestige would cause a loss of flavor. I don't know. Just kind of brainstorming, I guess. Any input is, as always, greatly appreciated.
Comments 
6th-Aug-2007 12:24 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry, but that certainly seems like a Prestige Class. Yes, they may start training at the age of ten, but being a class wouldn't fit that either - you can always change what class you are, after all, so there wouldn't be a difference between it being a Prestige class or a Paladin switching to that class at level 7.

Creating a Prestige Class is far more simple than creating a base class - especially since the two classes most similar to this are very front heavy to begin with and that's EXACTLY the type of thing one should avoid in a base class.
6th-Aug-2007 04:34 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I see what you mean, and that's kind of what I was thinking, too. Plus, prestige classes are more flavor-heavy and can grant abilities like crazy as long as the reqs are right.

I think the kind of thing one should avoid when making a class is better summed up in monks, who are, I think, simply ridiculous with all of their abilities and bonuses. Rangers and Paladins have problems, yeah, but monks just seem silly.
6th-Aug-2007 05:52 pm (UTC)
I'm standing by my assertion that this CANNOT be a prestige class if you ever want it to make sense for a character (unless of course you beat out all the resemblance to Carey's books, in which case do as you will). The whole basis for the Cassilines is that they are expert fighters with amazing reflexes precisely because they have been trained since they were ten. Unless you want to pull an Alia here and have a character absorbing levels before he/she is born, there's just no way you could feasibly have a character entering this as a prestige class.
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