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Arcane spell failure 
5th-Dec-2006 02:42 pm
Sir Black
I'm currently a second level sorcerer, but I'm planning on switching to rogue at about level six, and to a custom Gunmage prestige class at about level ten. I was wondering, are there any feats or magical items that will let me use the light armors that Rogues use, without having to deal with my spells failing?

EDIT: Thanks for the info, everyone!
5th-Dec-2006 07:47 pm (UTC)
There are lots of classes that allow use of various armors without spell failure. Failing that, Mithral Chain Shirt only has a 10% Spell Failure.

Of course, Still Spell is only +1 Spell Level and completely eliminates this problem.
5th-Dec-2006 07:50 pm (UTC)
I don't have my books at hand right now, but some supplements featured armor enchantment that reduced arcane spell failure. I am pretty sure the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting had something like that.
5th-Dec-2006 08:18 pm (UTC)
Im not sure but in Complete arcane they have something that allows you to ignore the first 10% of spell failure from armor. Armored mage or something. Then again if you plan on doing that take Mage armor. It doesn't last as long but you dont have to worry about spell failure at all...plus shield.
6th-Dec-2006 09:33 pm (UTC)
No, Armored Mage means if you can already ignore spell failure from one class of armor (e.g. light), you can ignore spell failure from the next class as well.

e.g. a bard with the Armored Mage feat can wear medium armor; if they take it twice (which is acceptable, I believe) they can wear heavy armor and ignore spell failure.

Sadly, this does nothing for sorcerers or wizards. :-(
6th-Dec-2006 09:40 pm (UTC)
Er. Sorry, Armored Mage is a class feature of the Warmage. Battle Caster is the feat I was thinking of. (thanks marphod down there for being right.)
5th-Dec-2006 08:37 pm (UTC)
Twilight is the name of the enchantment. Can't remember where in the non-campaign specific stuff it was located... PHB2?
-10% ASF.
6th-Dec-2006 09:34 pm (UTC)
That's in the Book of Exalted Deeds.
5th-Dec-2006 08:43 pm (UTC)
The Twillight Enchantment reduces spell failure by 10%. +1 armor enhancement.

There a bunch of Prestige Classes for spellcasters that have armor benefits/allowances (Spellsword from Complete Warrior, for instance).

There are a bunch of alternate sorceror classes that get armor benefits (Warmage from Complete Arcane, Dread Necromancer from heroes of horror, Beguilder from PHB2).

BAttle Caster feat (complete arcane) means that if you get armored casting, you can use heavier armor. (Doesn't stack nicely with Spellsword or Twillight, though, as those use percentages and Battle Caster use armor types (light, medium, heavy) ).

Your best bet, class levels, is to get a mithril bucker/light shield (0 ASF) and Mithril Chain Shirt with Twillight (0% ASF). Although, depending on your needs, at higher levels, wands of Shield and Mage Armor (Greater) may be as good.

5th-Dec-2006 09:30 pm (UTC)
I think the -10% arcane spell failure enchantment that everyone is talking about is somewhere in the Book of Exalted Deeds.
6th-Dec-2006 01:29 am (UTC)
You're right, twilight originally appeared there.

Anothere way is an alternate class feature for fighter in Complete Mage called Armored Mage. Like many other classes, it lets you cast spells of a particular arcane class while wearing light armor and light shields. The only downside being that you'd have to dip into Fighter for at least a level.
6th-Dec-2006 09:41 pm (UTC)
Wow, that's a really good way to do that! (Unless it just breaks the class...) Thanks for letting me know Complete Mage is actually useful. :-) (I had been skeptical, and haven't had a chance to browse through it yet.)
7th-Dec-2006 01:19 am (UTC)
there's boatloads of stuff in CM that non-mages can use, including new heritage feats that aren't sorc-reliant
6th-Dec-2006 01:46 am (UTC)
There's a material in the Arms and Equipment Guide or whatever it's called that either reduces or removes spell failure.

It makes no sense, though. It's a thick, heavier grown crystal that "conducts magical energy better". Considering that the bulkiness of the armor reducing mobility is what caused the spell failure, that's BS.
6th-Dec-2006 09:46 pm (UTC)
I thought crystal usually had to do with psions? I've never read the AEG, though, so I couldn't say.
6th-Dec-2006 09:59 pm (UTC)
That'd make sense, someone notify WotC. :D
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