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10th-Oct-2006 12:13 pm
dice from Melanie
I'd like to design a fighter PC with an emphasis on mounter combat with lance. What skills, feats, prestige classes would you folks recommend? Would phantom steed be a good way to get a mount when I need one?
10th-Oct-2006 05:33 pm (UTC)
a paladin gets some good mount related class abilities.
10th-Oct-2006 05:50 pm (UTC)
These are your mounted feats:

Mounted Combat

Ride 1 rank.

Once per round when your mount is hit in combat, you may attempt a Ride check (as a reaction) to negate the hit. The hit is negated if your Ride check result is greater than the opponent’s attack roll. (Essentially, the Ride check result becomes the mount’s Armor Class if it’s higher than the mount’s regular AC.)

Mounted Archery (not really appropriate for a lance user)

Ride-By Attack (like spring attack on a horse)

Spirited Charge
Ride 1 rank, Mounted Combat, Ride-By Attack.

When mounted and using the charge action, you deal double damage with a melee weapon (or triple damage with a lance).


Ride 1 rank, Mounted Combat.

When you attempt to overrun an opponent while mounted, your target may not choose to avoid you. Your mount may make one hoof attack against any target you knock down, gaining the standard +4 bonus on attack rolls against prone targets.
10th-Oct-2006 05:52 pm (UTC)
edit: All of these can be taken as fighter bonus feats, meaning you could have them all be level 4.

By level 6 you could have power attack and cleave.

Ride is also a class skill for fighters as well.

You get all of these, a good attack bonus, and don't have to worry about a code of honour.
10th-Oct-2006 05:55 pm (UTC)
Make sure that your character is either a gnome or halfloing and that your mount is a dog. Why? Because you don't want half your feats wasted when you go into a dungeon.
A halfling fighter can PrC into Halfing Outrider (Complete Warrior).
10th-Oct-2006 06:18 pm (UTC)
My group is about to start a new campaign. I am playing a mounted halfling. Halfling while dealing less damage can ride a dog and thus be capable in dungeons as others have noted.

My focus is taking Spirited Charge, which would enable triple damage on a charge with a lance. And later to the Cavalier PrC, which provides charges for quadruple damage with the lance.

Skills: ride and handle animal.
10th-Oct-2006 07:36 pm (UTC)
Take a look at the Knight class from PHB2.
11th-Oct-2006 03:35 pm (UTC)
I did. The knight looks like an interesting alternative / backup to a fighter, but seems to be focussed on a kind of supernatural "aid others" ability and a quasi-bardic "calling out" ability.

In particular, it looks like a character who'd do well in large-scale combats.
10th-Oct-2006 11:07 pm (UTC)
I second the call to play a Paladin; mechanically it would be better for this. Of course, you also have all the Paladin stuff to deal with.

In any case, check out the Cavalier PrC from Complete Warrior. Ultimate Mounted Combat (get up to a x5 dmg multiplier with a Lance). Then make sure to take and use Power Attack (the Shock Trooper feat from Complete Warrior will let you move the penalty to your AC from your attack, so it too can be quite helpful).
11th-Oct-2006 03:25 am (UTC)
I agree with the other comments, and would like to add the following:

Tools of the Trade by Rich Burlew.

Mount Specialization
-Greater Mount Specialization
--Mount of Choice
--Epic Mount Specialization

Fighter *or* paladin levels count towards the prerequisites. You could conceivably include ranger/druid in there too, if it's an animal companion as the mount.

The rest of the feats seem pretty cool, too.
11th-Oct-2006 02:27 pm (UTC)
I would like to throw in: Fuck Paladins.

They are, in all honesty, simply a hashed together class of Fighter and Cleric with a few extra kicks tossed in to make them not suck. Personally when I want to play a character of this archetype, I'll play a multiclass Fighter/Cleric and call it a day.

I have nothing against Paladins, per se, I simply think that there are other ways to play a "Holy Knight" type of character that simply aren't embraced anymore. :]
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