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Blackguard after 10th Level... 
14th-May-2006 08:00 pm
Okey dokey... Paladin reaches 11th level, turns bad, swaps 10 levels for Blackguard... Now a Paladin 1/Blackguard 10... What class next...? She can't take levels in Epic Blackguard yet, and she can no longer progress as a Paladin... I have heard about a bunch of alternative 'Anti-Paladins' from various magazines, but I can't get a hold of them... Anyone got any ideas...? Currently female human Pal1/Blk10 uses a bastard sword and a shield, with the feats Imp. Initiative, Exotic Weap.Prof-Bastard sword, improved sunder, cleave, power attack... She also has a juvenile green dragon as a fiendish servant- long story...
14th-May-2006 12:41 pm (UTC)
Paladins of different alignments can be found in Unearthed Arcana. The trouble with a variant paladin is that most cases they say you can't take levels in one version of a class and then multiclass into another, like different types of specialist wizard.
If you check the PHB2 excerpt on the website, consider becoming a knight. Your divine abilities won't progress, but you'll be come a tank in combat, assuming you're remaining lawful. Another decent shot might be the Soulborn or Incarnate from Magic of Incarnum. It could preserve the heavy alignment emphasis, while using supernatural shazz to augment your combat ability.
14th-May-2006 06:04 pm (UTC)
If a more "roguish" path appeals to you, you could take a few levels in Mountebank, a base class that appears in the Dragon Compendium, from Paizo Publishing.
14th-May-2006 11:50 pm (UTC)
You can just "swap" like that? *blinks* o.o

It makes perfect sense, but I never really read that anywhere. Is that a house rule or is that actually a "real" rule?

15th-May-2006 12:05 am (UTC)
In the write up of Blackguard in the DMG there is a table of what kind of benefits you can get if you have levels in paladin... If you have 11 or more levels of paladin, you are what is called 'Favoured of the dark deities' and you can trade in levels of paladin for levels of Blackguard- A paladin which has turned evil loses all abilitis and spells and such, so the trade off is quite worth it...
15th-May-2006 04:09 pm (UTC) - The trick is...
The trick is to take 20 levels of Paladin, then one level of Blackguard. At that point, you swap out all your levels of Paladin to be a 21st level Blackguard at 21st level. Neat, huh?
15th-May-2006 12:03 am (UTC)
Well, technically, she's a Fallen Paladin 1/Blackguard 10. She could always take levels in Fallen Paladin. Check out the Variant Paladin rules--you'll probably have to scroll down the page a bit to find them. Freedom, Slaughter, and Tyranny, with alignments CG, CE, and LE. I'm guessing you'd be a Tyranny (LE) in this case? Anyway, if your DM allows you to have a dragon as a fiendish servant (WITHOUT burning a feat to do so!!!) they'll probably be really lenient in letting you vary your classes. ;-)

Also, can't you *not* take levels in epic extensions of non-epic classes (e.g. blackguard, arcane archer, etc) until you have at least 20 levels of a base (non-PrC) class? That's how I've heard it, anyway.
15th-May-2006 05:08 pm (UTC)
Any combination of warrior or cleric might work. Rogue is a good option as well.
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