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25th-Apr-2006 08:47 pm
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okay, more seemingly daily questions to pick your brains about. Please be specific with quotes on this one, I've been tearing my books and the SRD apart and can't find the answers. Please use 3.5 examples (i know in 3.0 you had to make a reflex save vs. dc 20, but I make that as long as I don't roll a 1, and that's not stated anywhere in 3.5)

1. If I have multiple attacks (say 4), and I attempt a grapple with my first attack, can I attempt to pin with my second? If I am successful, can I then use a natural attack immediately?

2. How does a monk deflect an arrow? I can not find a single reference anywhere in any book that says what dice I need to roll, what check I need to make, or ..well, anything? Does it automatically work now?
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26th-Apr-2006 12:55 am (UTC)
2. The Monk can get Deflect Arrows as a bonus feat at 2nd level in 3.5 (or pick it up as a normal feat elsewhere). It pretty much allows one auto-deflect of a ranged weapon per round, no roll necessary.
26th-Apr-2006 01:01 am (UTC)
So, when my epic level monk gets infinite deflection(deflect any number of ranged weapons per round) and exceptional deflection(deflect any kind of ranged weapon including rays) can never be hit with a missle weapon or touch attacks spell as long as he is prepared and has one hand free?

So if 1000 wizards fired 1000 disintegration rays at him, he could deflect all of them?

It just seems incredible.
26th-Apr-2006 01:03 am (UTC)
I couldn't say -- I don't play Epic, so I don't know how those rules interact with the ones in the Base set.
26th-Apr-2006 01:47 am (UTC)
As long as you meet the pre-reqs, that sounds about right. That's why they're called epic.
26th-Apr-2006 02:17 am (UTC)
Correct.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/feats.htm#infiniteDeflection


Infinite Deflection [Epic]
Prerequisites: Dex 25, Combat Reflexes, Deflect Arrows, Improved Unarmed Strike.

Benefit: You may perform any number of deflections each round, as the Deflect Arrows feat.
26th-Apr-2006 07:09 pm (UTC)
But since the Deflect Arrows feat explicitly does not affect spells, it is not correct.
26th-Apr-2006 08:24 pm (UTC)
Exceptional deflection, which he has, applies to ranged touch attack spells also.
26th-Apr-2006 08:42 pm (UTC)
Sorry, my mistake.
26th-Apr-2006 02:33 am (UTC)
The epic feats you're referring to aren't 3.5.
26th-Apr-2006 02:40 am (UTC)
They are, however, still part of the SRD.
26th-Apr-2006 03:00 am (UTC)
Was the SRD ever fully updated for 3.5?
26th-Apr-2006 06:55 pm (UTC)
Epic Spell Focus and Improved Combat Reflexes appear to have been adjusted, at least.

Epic Spell Focus is +1 DC, and Improved Combat Reflexes indicates one AoO "per opportunity" as opposed to "per target per round".

Improved Whirlwind Attack is also different (I believe it used to change it to hit everyone within reach, but since that became standard, Improved Whirlwind Attack is a completely different feat).

I don't know if I would say "fully" updated, but other notes like DR XX/Epic seem to lean towards that.
27th-Apr-2006 04:15 am (UTC)
Hmm ...

The Epic Deflect Arrows feat seems horribly unbalanced at infinite automatic deflections per round.
27th-Apr-2006 06:50 am (UTC)
Meh, it just means someone has to get toe-to-toe with the monk and tear his face apart. :D
26th-Apr-2006 04:35 am (UTC)
Its just less likely to have a character with such a feat since the pre-reqs are pretty steep.

A Dex of 25 is easy enough to achieve for an epic (presuming you started with a Dex 18 with a racial +2 and spend at least 20 lvls worth of Attrib points into ONLY your dex. Yeah)
26th-Apr-2006 04:47 am (UTC)
A little easier if you're a vampire lol
26th-Apr-2006 04:49 am (UTC)
Maybe I am out of the loop, but you can play a vampire in 3.5?
26th-Apr-2006 09:04 am (UTC)
You can play damn near anything if your DM allows it. 3.5 certainly didn't curb any of that action.
26th-Apr-2006 01:02 am (UTC)
Solved the second on. According to the FAQ, a person with 2 attacks can grab and pin in the same turn, which means with three attacks I can use a natural attack.
26th-Apr-2006 02:34 am (UTC)
1. Yes.

2. You automatically deflect a single missile attack.
27th-Apr-2006 10:09 pm (UTC)
It's a small and incidental detail, but Deflect Arrow doesn't quite work automatically. You still need a free hand to deflect a projectile.
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