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Are Shuriken thrown singly, or in groups of three? 
12th-Apr-2006 02:12 pm
Evil Drew
Are Shuriken thrown singly, or in groups of three?
12th-Apr-2006 04:49 pm (UTC)
Not really. But I guess you could but you would prolly take a penalty.
12th-Apr-2006 04:52 pm (UTC)
What about with a Multiple shot Feat?
12th-Apr-2006 04:58 pm (UTC)
I could see it then without any penalty.
12th-Apr-2006 07:37 pm (UTC)
Multishot carries penalties of its own, so it still isn't really "without any penalty".
12th-Apr-2006 09:56 pm (UTC)
I dunno, *can* you use Manyshot with thrown weapons?
12th-Apr-2006 05:04 pm (UTC)
Since it doesn't say anywhere, it defaults to 1 per round rate of fire for each attack you get.
12th-Apr-2006 05:33 pm (UTC)
3.0: 3 at a time. Extra damage from precision or similar bonuses only apply to the first of the three (Weapon Spec., sneak attach, ranger favorite enemy, Point Blank Shot, etc.) I believe they also are not adjusted for strength.

3.5: 1 at a time, Monk flurry weapon. Treated as Ammunition for pricing enhancements, and what happens when thrown.
12th-Apr-2006 05:58 pm (UTC)
They are thrown indivudally.
If you throw more than one at once (version of D&D, high BAB, flurry, whatever), they are thrown in quick succession.

Why do you ask?
12th-Apr-2006 06:01 pm (UTC)
Except when you se the multi-shot feat.
Then they are all thrown from the same hand.
12th-Apr-2006 06:30 pm (UTC)
Becasue I rememebred them ebign 3 at a time, and was having an arguement.

You need a reason to ask for rules clarification, now?
12th-Apr-2006 08:01 pm (UTC)
No, I just wondered if it was a "how many can you throw at once", "do they land in a specific order" or some bizare situation that Ican't imagine at the moment.

I like to know what unusual situations crop up in other people's games.
12th-Apr-2006 08:53 pm (UTC)
Shuriken almost always seemed to require the use of poison or sneak attack to be very effective, until Artificers came by and could dump an enchantment on 'em for cheap.
12th-Apr-2006 09:11 pm (UTC)
groups of three.
12th-Apr-2006 09:13 pm (UTC)
a better question is why would a half-orc monk with really high strength and a move rate higher than the range increment of a shuriken bother tossing tiny metal spikes at his foes when he can smash them with his giant meaty fists?

13th-Apr-2006 04:30 am (UTC)
hahaha. Not my problem. I jsut kill you guys.
12th-Apr-2006 09:52 pm (UTC)
I've never heard of the "groups of three" idea, but when I played 3.0 I was kind of clueless anyway ("Whee! I get to cast any spell from the cleric list spontaneously! This rules!") so I dunno.

Don't you have to have Quick Draw to be able to attack with *any* thrown weapon at your regular BAB rate? Say you have three attacks--you have one shuriken in hand, attack with it as your standard action, draw the next one as a move action...oops, your turn is done. Next!

Or are monks just special like that?
12th-Apr-2006 11:55 pm (UTC)
1. 3.0 had shurikens being thrown in groups of three. 3.5 simplifies the shuriken rules by removing this clause, though they're still treated as an odd hybrid of thrown weapons and ammunition.

2. Shuriken are treated as ammunition for the purposes of drawing them, crafting them, and retrieving them (after throwing them), so you don't need Quick Draw to throw multiple shurikens (according to your BAB).
12th-Apr-2006 11:30 pm (UTC)
Single single single. =) Unless you like to throw shurikens and grab yourself levels in Master Thrower, and then Double Toss.
13th-Apr-2006 12:51 am (UTC)
Master Thrower is a great PrC. I heart it.

I always thought it was silly that it granted you the feat Quick Draw, though. Shouldn't QD have been a prerequisite?
13th-Apr-2006 03:53 am (UTC)
The only problem with making Quick Draw a prerequisite is that it already has 3 feats as prereqs.

=) Personally, I like that MT's get it as a bonus feat, because any old shmoe can whip out a dagger and hurl it across the room, but only a Master Thrower can pull out two daggers, throw them in your face while you think you're watching him, and sink it directly into your cornea. :P

Much love for MT's!
14th-Apr-2006 03:52 am (UTC)
I heard somewhere that Master Thrower and Invisible Blade were originally a single 10-level PrC, and that's why some of the requirements don't make sense.
17th-Apr-2006 03:44 am (UTC)
Now I feel better about my NPC idea that combined both of those classes. ;-)

I mean, come on. Far Shot for Invisible Blade? That's just fucking stupid.
17th-Apr-2006 04:54 am (UTC)
15th-Apr-2006 05:00 am (UTC) - If you're a "ninja" ;)
Yeah you throw them in groups of three. But how you choose to perceive how they're thrown is up to you. A ninja is skilled enough to probably throw them all at once from one hand, or throw them one at a time; but so bloody fast you won't notice.
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