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Prestige Class Organizations 
11th-Feb-2006 05:32 pm
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In my games, gaining a prestige class has usually been a factor of meeting the requirements and just multiclassing in.  I know that a number of PrCs involve special orders of do-gooders that one might have to petition for entry, but I rarely see myself using those at all.  I know my PCs don't live in a vaccuum, but what fun is beating the badguy if there's an entire cadre of guys who are all higher level than you and far more devoted to the cause?  The PCs still gotta be the stars of the show and I don't need to have an elite force of crime-fighters cleaning up the streets.  Not to mention, I really don't want to introduce an organization into my game, either to hlep the PCs or the hinder them, that is so unilateral as to all qualify for the same PrC.  Like a force of blademasters who all get baked by a single enchantment, or a mystical mage circle that can't handle poison darts.  I wouldn't make a party that one-sided, why should a self-respecting organization put all its eggs in one basket too?

I guess my question is this:  Do you guys use organizations to represent your PrCs?  And how do you work that in your game?
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11th-Feb-2006 11:39 pm (UTC)
My PC is a cleric/hunter of the dead. There is an actual organization in the gameworld called "hunters of the dead." But they certainly aren't all paladins and clerics. Some of the members don't even have the prestige class. In fact, the only members who have that kind of special training are the "elite" members.

He doesn't have a cadre of expert hunters assisting him. In fact he doesn't have much more than his immediate allise to count on if he wants to raid a vampire lair or somesuch. The closest he's come to relying on the organization was for his initial training, and occasional "tips" on what kind of insane necromancer or cleric of an evil god of undeath hav been running around lately.

There is another prestige class, academy wizards (I don't recall what the original name is in the published book, we changed it). They are wizards that pay their dues to the local academy of wizards in exchange for training, and the various benefits of their PrC such as new free spells in their spellbook at certain levels, the spellpool, etc. Some of the wizards never actually pick up the prestige class, they just stay wizards, or they become something else as a result of their research. But it doesn't mean the academy is just a bunch of wizards, it takes a lot more than that to run and fund an academy.

I could go on...
12th-Feb-2006 01:49 pm (UTC)
Just becasue there's an organization doesn't mean that they're going to help or hinder your PCs. Look at it like an Elk's club -- people with similar interests gather to exchnge stories and possibly assistance.

For an example, the Dwarven Defenders are a big thing in my world, but the PCs can't expect any help form them, becasue the Capotil is under siege, and they're all busy defending the dwarves. They still have to petition to join, but they'll be sent on quest ot something to proove themselves.
12th-Feb-2006 02:02 pm (UTC)
What I'm sayin is if there's another group which has goals that overlap with the PCs, thus being able to interest the PCs in membership, won't they step on each other's toes to some extent?
12th-Feb-2006 02:04 pm (UTC)
"Ah, you say you wish to kill the litch? Good. i can reassign my people to the Demon Gate in Nebraska."

You're the DM. People do what you tell them to do.
12th-Feb-2006 02:16 pm (UTC)
I'm working on plausibility. If a PC wants to join the Demonslayers local 442, doesn't that mean there's something of a monopoly on demonslaying in the area as is?
12th-Feb-2006 02:43 pm (UTC)
It's not a union so much as a collection of people with local interests. Perhaps most of them have demon vendettas. They wouldn't want help on their quests, lest someone steal their kill. They should extend the same courtacy. This would be a forum to trade info and tactics, little else.

Or perhaps, if a specific demon is your issue, it would be a part of hin initiation to kill it, or his first assignment. The world does what you tell it to do.
14th-Feb-2006 03:29 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's probably closer to the guild concept than a union. Guilds are a lot like professional organizations now (like the American Medical Assoc., Bar associations, etc.) They don't exist to protect the rights of their members so much as to promote the professionalism & standards of their fields. Unions are the little guys banding together to fight the big guys, guilds are the big guys banding together to protect and promote their profession.

That said, there are always plenty of demons to kill. The PC could not join the slayers' guild, but if he did, he'd have contacts within the slaying industry, monthly newsletter, and cheaper rates at the annual convention.
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