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10th-Dec-2002 12:58 pm
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I've just noticed that Wizards are announcing revisions to D&D 3E. From the looks of it you'll have to buy new copies of the books for the revisions (although the revisions appear to be minor) - the don't mention a plan to issue these changes as Errata. One of the changes mentioned was changes to some of the classes to make them more balanced. I imagine these are just the changes made by Monte Cook on his webpage. I hope so at least. But I am a bit miffed. I'm still trying to afford the D20 Modern book - how can I afford a new copy of all the core rulebooks too? They suggest to look in Dragon Magazine (and on the webpage) for updates. Shame us UK subscribers to the magazine are having trouble getting issues.
10th-Dec-2002 01:54 pm (UTC)
either that, or you can wait until the updates hit the SDR website.
10th-Dec-2002 01:59 pm (UTC)
10th-Dec-2002 05:08 pm (UTC) - Re:
sorry...SRD System reference document. The heart and soul of the free d20 Gaming liscence.

This is the site i'm refering to.


If the core books are updated, eventually so will the the public released info for 3rd party liscences.

14th-Dec-2002 11:31 am (UTC)
I heard the Ranger is really reworked, but I'm gonna have to leaf through 'em before I lay down any money.

and yeah, I'm new.
14th-Dec-2002 12:11 pm (UTC)
If it's the ranger off Monte Cook's website (which I suspect it will be), yes, it is very reworked. It is also *much* better. We've been using it since we discovered it last year. It's much more balanced.


Oh, and welcome to the community. :)
22nd-Dec-2002 06:14 pm (UTC)
I'm rather new to this and was wondering how I could join the group/post entries here since I see that there's more than one person making them.
23rd-Dec-2002 04:27 am (UTC)
If you go to: http://www.livejournal.com/community/join.bml?comm=dnd3e you can join here. If in future you are interested in joining further communities, go to their user info page, and there is a link to the relevant page for joining that community at the top of the page.

Welcome to the community. :)
28th-Dec-2002 09:50 pm (UTC)
what would it really matter what wizards does? who cares what's "official." just use the books you've got, keep playing with those rules, and keep having fun.
29th-Dec-2002 01:05 am (UTC)
Well, firstly there's the fact that my friends will most likely get the new books and I have to play by the same rules as them. Secondly, there's the issue that I use the Dragon magazine as my main resource, and if they do stuff with relation to new rules then I'll be totally lost. Thirdly there's the fact that if the changes are anything like Monte Cook's ranger, then they'll actually be worth changing too - it's always a pain in the arse having to refer to loose sheets of paper when designing a ranger character.

But more importantly though, it's a matter of principle. Wizards are trying to squeeze money out of their loyal customers. If they don't publish the new material in a way for people with the books already to read (which as someone pointed out, they will do on the open source places), and if I didn't love the rules so much, I'd boycott the company. Wizards almost have the monopoly on roleplaying games, if they now turn into the Microsoft of the industry, then I seriously will have to look for new game material - just like I have with computer operating systems.

I won't buy the new books one way or another, my friends can, and if they want to use the new rules, I'll just copy them out and slip them into my old books. Plus as you say, if my friends don't swap to the new rules, I can continue using the old ones. But the principle of the matter remains - and it still pisses me off. Companies should look after their loyal customers.. not milk them for more money.

P.S. I'm currently totally pissed off with Wizards at the moment because they fucked up on UK subscriptions of Dragon Magazine when they sold the mag to another company.. and I haven't had my copy for a few months. So maybe I'm just a little harsh on them. *shrug* I still think that they're wrong to put new material in a new copy of the book without adding it to an erratta too.
29th-Dec-2002 11:51 pm (UTC)
i know what you mean. wizards are really starting to get on my nerves. if you ever wanna look for new gaming material might i suggest white wolf? very good games, much cheaper, and you can download all character sheets and the full beginner books with all the rules off their site for free. plus they get a lot more info in their books anyways and the gameplay system just seems a lot easier to learn. if ya ask me i think d&d gets way too detailed with the rules sometimes. but yeah, wizards sucks.
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