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Restoring Vampires!?! 
1st-Nov-2005 09:55 am
Working on a story line. How would you "cure" someone of vampirism? Your thoughts please!!

Cross posted.
1st-Nov-2005 04:07 pm (UTC)
I assume you want something other than wish?

I would require a special ritual performed by a cleric of a good-aligned god, probably with some exotic and/or expensive components that must be performed either at a certain time or within a certain time limit (i.e. during a total eclipse of the sun, or before the afflicted has been a vampire under the new moon)
1st-Nov-2005 04:12 pm (UTC)
yeah... ressurect or reincarnate or raise dead don't work on the undead, do they? you could always go the lost boys route and kill the vampire that made him. for a game you could make it fun and then you'd have to go after the one that made the one that made him, then the one that made the one that made the one that made him, then the one that made the one that made the one that made the one that made the one that made him, then...
1st-Nov-2005 04:29 pm (UTC)
Resurrection spells destroy undead, generally.
1st-Nov-2005 08:08 pm (UTC)
Raise dead, resurrection, and true resurrection can't affect the undead. They cannot be cast on the undead anymore than they can be cast on a golem, or a living person for that matter. All those spells have "Target: Dead creature touched."

If you destroy an undead creature, it's possible to cast resurrection or true resurrection on them to bring them back to life, much like bringing back someone that was killed by a death effect (for example).
1st-Nov-2005 08:12 pm (UTC)
I've probably got some old memories from 1E or 2E interfering. Or a houserule so old I forgot it was a houserule. :)
2nd-Nov-2005 09:56 am (UTC)
I had a character who became a shadow once, the Players suprised her one day by digging up a piece of her corporeal body and Rezzing it.
1st-Nov-2005 04:15 pm (UTC)
Stab them in the heart with a sharp stick.

It is a harsh cure but effective.
1st-Nov-2005 04:20 pm (UTC) - Ha! Ha!
Storyline needs the vampire restored to normal. That is a very effective cure though!
1st-Nov-2005 04:20 pm (UTC)
If the character had made a point never to drink human blood, or give in to "the dark side", I would make the cure much easier (maybe a True Res from a god of healing or light).

IIRC, there is a high-elven magic spell that restores life to an undead. I'm blanking on the name, but it was 9th level.
1st-Nov-2005 04:22 pm (UTC)

I'd have to say that you would have to kill him in a certain way (Rowanwood spike? Silver-knife flaying?), collect all of the ashes in a certain jar/bottle (holy glass? Silvered? coated with Universal Solvent?), bring him to a certain place (holy place? place with a fountain of health/life etc.?) at a certain time (Spring? an equinox? the longest day of the year?) and perform a certain ritual (Good god's one? Death God, begging to let him go?). AND the vampire has to be willing (member of the god whose ritual you are performing) to be remade.

...and then the usual penalties for being brough back to proper life. :D
1st-Nov-2005 04:27 pm (UTC)
The traditional method is "kill the master vampire at the same time you are giving the switchee a complete blood transfusion."
1st-Nov-2005 04:30 pm (UTC)
How about a quest to find an artifact, some kind of rod of undead control or the like, something ancient and unique. Perhaps destroying such a necromantic artifact in the presence of (or by) the afflicted would release the energies that bind him to undeath.
1st-Nov-2005 06:42 pm (UTC)
this seems to be the best so far...in my opinion. I changed a character of mine 14th Rogue/2 Ranger/2nd Giant Killer in a vampire (story line mostly...) and I was thinking could he be redeemed by the party. He wanted to live longer than his human body would allow to rid the region he lived in of giants...but can that ever be accomplished? So I was leaving it open for the pc's to explore.

Also, the special ritual of a good-aligned god would be good. But why would they do so? "Hi, I'm a vampire and I don't want to be one anymore...can you help?" ...maybe not.
1st-Nov-2005 04:52 pm (UTC)
All the methods said so far are great... I can be a sadistic DM/GM and I would probably require the afflicted PC to sacrifice an innocent to some Dark Powers or something... stay a vampire and fight the urges etc? Or kill the virgin/baby/awesome halfling chef etc?

Of course, I would have another, less despicable option available, one the required lots of 'questing' and stuff.

But I would be sure to dangle the former option, just to see what they do.

1st-Nov-2005 05:26 pm (UTC)
..and if they take that option they can't be cured and are forever damned?
1st-Nov-2005 05:30 pm (UTC)
If they take the former option, assuming their good, they have def. taken a step, no, large leap in the 'bad' direction. So, yeah, be cured... but screw themselves (if they wish to reamain 'good') in the end, etc.

'Evil' options are always the easier ones (unless it's an evil party, of course). I like to tempt my players, esp. those of good alignments... if they're evil, then I get them feeling good about doing nice things... hehe

As I said though, there would be a non-vile option, but it wouldn't be 1) obvious 2) easy 3) really involving, in fact.


1st-Nov-2005 05:31 pm (UTC)
rather: 3) really uninvolving.

haha... I think I make sense...

1st-Nov-2005 04:52 pm (UTC)
I like the idea someone else started - drink the blood of something very very holy.

So start with a ritual done by at least one, if not a set, of good aligned priests. As part of that ritual use the blood of an angel (or game equivalent maybe a solar), with the angels consent and cooperation. Now, how you talk the angel into doing this is a set of stories into themselves.
1st-Nov-2005 07:44 pm (UTC)
It depends on the nature of your vampires; and if you don't have a nature, then now is a good time to establish one.

Maybe the vampirism is like a supernatural addiction, the only way to cure it being to starve yourself of it, going through maddenning withdrawls for weeks or months until the thirst for blood recedes and the supernatural abilities atrophy.

Any of the other suggestions would work, but make it consistent, I guess. Good luck.
1st-Nov-2005 08:28 pm (UTC)
Feed them a nice, delicious steak. It'll go straight to their heart.
2nd-Nov-2005 12:10 am (UTC)
I vaguely remember two ways.

The first is kill it.

Use True Res and and Remove Curse

The other way is an Elven High Magic Spell at the theoretical 10th lvl slot.
2nd-Nov-2005 05:18 am (UTC)
There are two ways to read "cure" a vampire.

Do you want the person restored to living flesh and blood? That's tricky (and arguably impossible, depending on the mythos). You've got an undead body motivated by a demonic spirit, according to some, or a soul lost for all time, according to others, etc. I think destroying the vampire's physical form, fetching the soul from whatever prison it has been bound in, and casting resurrection is a good starting point to work from.

Do you want the person to remain a vampire, but with his blood-thirst reduced to a manageable level (by far the more intersting option, for my money)? Find blood substitutes. Acquire him/her a herd. Have him bound by holy magics to be unable to feed (withdrawal symptoms, as previously suggested) ... maybe there's some sort of super-potent blood that he can feed from once a year (dragon blood?).
2nd-Nov-2005 12:21 pm (UTC)
wish! now all you need to do is find a way for your pc,s to get there hand on a wish or find a wizard who can provide them with one,,,which of course will involve some crazy quest as a fee and whatnot,,,""you could be really jerked off and make it an evil type quest""
9th-Nov-2005 12:52 am (UTC)
the simple answer that is in concordance with the rules is to destroy the vampire, and then ressurect the character.

But many more interesting ideas have been expressed above. :)
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