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So i'm dead set on playing a bard. I've searched every splat book for… 
23rd-Aug-2005 03:45 pm
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So i'm dead set on playing a bard. I've searched every splat book for 3.5 out there, and last night i cracked open the Planar Handbook. Lo and Behold, the Sensate PrC. It's literally everything i wanted and more. Near full caster progression, a little multiclassing (i was going to take druid 1 anyway), and most importantly, it allows me to keep expanding my Bardic Knowledge bonus. My main question is this...

Bards are automaticly proficient with whips, an exotic weapon. Part of the requirements for higher level gain is proficiency with an exotic weapon, but not necessarily the feat ExWeapProf. The sample character has bard levels and the ExWeapProf feat. Seems redundant if my reading of the rules is right. Am i going to have to waste a feat slot? Doesn't seem like i should, but just getting a consensus.
23rd-Aug-2005 07:54 pm (UTC)
The bard's proficiency in whip is still considered a feat for all intents and purposes, but they just don't have to take it. They get it free. So, if the sample character has that listed, it is just a redundancy. Also, sample characters cannot be relied upon for rules reliability.
Also, if anyone tells you that bards are useless, kick them in the jimmy. Bards kick ass in 3.5. Check out the bard feats in Complete Adventurer for some singsong fundidlyiciousness.
23rd-Aug-2005 07:59 pm (UTC)
Oh i'm fully aware. More to the point, Complete Arcane's Sudden Still, Sudden Silent are top notch awesome. Toss some ranks in Perform (oratory), and you have a very subtle bard. Since his verbal components are his performance, all you have to do is make a grand speech. My favorite concept was a philosopher bard who used logical dialectics to cast spells. Charm Person had a sound argument behind it, hehe.
23rd-Aug-2005 08:37 pm (UTC)
Oh wow.... i just "purchased" complete adventurer. I'd perused it in the store, but now that i have full access to it, i see what you mean. hello, diguise spell!
23rd-Aug-2005 08:02 pm (UTC)
I fell in love with the Folruchan(SP?!) Lyrist from the Complete Adventurer. :) She was a little weak at first, because it required some multiclassing, but once she hits the prestige class, she was just going to be fun!
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23rd-Aug-2005 08:53 pm (UTC)
I've yet to find a good place to acquire Dragons. Suggestions? Preferably ones that cost little to no money?
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24th-Aug-2005 05:23 pm (UTC)
well, you might be able to download them from the internet if you can find a site somewhere.
24th-Aug-2005 01:10 pm (UTC)
You can get Dragon #330 here - only $7 plus shipping:

You can also legally purchase Complete Adventurer and other products there if your conscience ever gets the best of you. (Sorry, pet peeve of mine.)
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