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Hello everyone. I am new to this community so naturally I'm going to… 
21st-Mar-2005 05:41 pm
Hello everyone.

I am new to this community so naturally I'm going to do the stupidist thing I can think of...

Ask a question that has been asked 100 times before.

I am looking for a good map making program. Preferbly one that is free. I have a world sketched out, it's not very good. A hex or tile based program might help me really add some flesh to the bones I've drawn.

I've been gaming for a very long time, in many, many games so I'll likely be chiming in often.
21st-Mar-2005 10:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's been asked in ever D&D forum hundreds of times, and I've read/posted in more threads than I care to remember.

I still haven't found a viable mapping program either though.
21st-Mar-2005 11:04 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately I don't think there's any easy way to do it. What I and many other people do is use Photoshop. It's something that takes time to learn, but it's truly invaluable for all your computer graphic needs. You can make any kind of map imaginable if you put the effort into it.

Photoshop itself isn't free, but you can easily get a trial program or a *coughillegalcough* copy somewhere.

As far as hex and tile grids go, they're made very easily in Photoshop. You can find tutorials in a ton of places or ask me if you're really interested.
21st-Mar-2005 11:12 pm (UTC) - AUTOREALM!
If you want a free mapping program, pick up AutoRealm. (Do a google search; it's a very unique name. Ah, heck, here's a link: http://www.gryc.ws/autorealm.htm)

AutoRealm has fractal lines, the ability to pan or zoom in, and the ability to place random tiles--which CC2 doesn't even have.

Saying that, though, CC2 is very much worth the money if you're willing to spend the cash for it. Go to www.profantasy.com for that one. (The add-ons are what makes it a deal; the basic mapping package is just a start.)

And, of course, there's always AD&D Core Rules, which had a very-old version of CC2 and its own tile-based mapper. Don't know where you can get that.

OTOH, you could get Dundjini (http://www.dundjinni.com/), which is a tile-based mapping program. Reqires a bit of a processor overhead, though.

Unless I was doing a map for production, I wouldn't use Photoshop or GIMP or any of the rest. There's too much work for too little benefit, IMNSHO.
22nd-Mar-2005 01:37 am (UTC) - Re: AUTOREALM!
I'll second the recommendation of Campaign Cartographer 2...it is _well_ worth the money and makes some sweet maps (though I felt like I needed the add-ons to make really good ones, your mileage may vary).

Lucifer >:}
22nd-Mar-2005 01:09 pm (UTC) - Re: AUTOREALM!
Do you know what the system requirements are for AutoRealm or Dundjinni?
23rd-Mar-2005 01:45 am (UTC) - Re: AUTOREALM!
No, and no.

The first is OSS, and while it will probably run on any computer that can run Windows 2000, and possibly even older, the only real way to know how well it works is to download it and try it out.

Dundjinni--well, it's Java based, memory-heavy, and ran slow on my old Duron 700. I haven't tried it with my new PC, but that's because I'm an Open Gaming snob and their "you can't sell the maps you make because they use our art" line pushed me over to the "no going to buy it" stage.

All that said, AutoRealm runs faster than CC2 (so will work better on a slower machine), and CC2 runs faster than D...--the pretentiously named one--and so will similiarly work on a slower computer.

They all have demos, for free, so you can try them out. (Well, aside from AutoRealm, but it's gratis in any case.)
22nd-Mar-2005 12:19 am (UTC)
do any of those work for Macs?
22nd-Mar-2005 01:08 am (UTC)
Dundjinni does. Too bad the full version isn't free, though.
23rd-Mar-2005 01:49 am (UTC) - Depends
The pretentiously-named one (hard to spell, stopped trying) has a Mac version, but it's Java.

AutoRealm has a POSIX/Linux/UNIX version, so you can run it as well as you can run OpenOffice.

CC2 doesn't.
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