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3.5 Druid wildshape 
20th-Feb-2005 07:09 pm
Leafing through the PHB, it seems as if polymorph and the associated Druid wild shape power have received some massaging. This leads to some confusion, of course. Since one of the druids in the party I'm running just hit level 5, it's time for me to brush up on wild shape.
When a druid changes form:
Str, Dex, Con all become normal for appropriate animal type (although not specified, I imagine any extant stat-buffs from spells such as bull's strength remain in effect).
All equipment melds into new form (unless otherwise noted).
Base attack, base saves remain unchanged. However, attacks, damage, and saving throws may all be modified by new stats (and sudden lack of magical equipment).
Armor class becomes appropriate for animal type. (Generally, this is worse than the character's normal AC).
Speed, attack routines, special attacks all become appropriate for animal type.
Druid does NOT gain special qualities such as Scent (not sure how I feel about this ...).
Druid heals as if resting for one day (first time wildshaping per day, only).

Here's the major source of confusion for me. 3.0 was very specific that a character's hit points do not change due to shapechanging, even if the character's CON score does. 3.5 seems bereft of such a ruling, which suggests that hit-points fluctuate according to the new form's CON score. Anyone have any clarification on that?
21st-Feb-2005 05:42 am (UTC)
I believe that the character's HP does get adjusted by the new CON score.
21st-Feb-2005 06:56 am (UTC)
Which means that, if you;re wounded, changing into something small (hence, something with a low Constitution) to get away might, in fact, kill you outright.

Along those lines, if you wild shape into something large, with a happy Con modifier, and get injured severely enough that reverting yo your original form would drop your hit points below -10, how long can you stay changed...?
21st-Feb-2005 02:03 pm (UTC)
That part I know - 1 hour/druid level.
21st-Feb-2005 04:42 pm (UTC)
That might just explain why you heal as though from a night's rest when you wildshape.
21st-Feb-2005 11:45 am (UTC)
As far as I know, your HP stays the same.

Also, the way that I've always played it is that the Druid still has the magical protection that he/she had before Wild Shaping, but it's impossible to access and use anything that would actually need to be physically used (ie- weapons). I think the reason I and my friends did this was because otherwise there was no incentive to ever fight in Wild Shape.

For that matter, we've also done it that if you decided to wild shape into a Dog, you got the Scent ability of a dog, etc etc etc.
21st-Feb-2005 04:47 pm (UTC)
There are arguments both ways. Generally speaking, your HP gets modified by your CON modifier, and it gets updated when your CON modifier changes (Bear's Endurance, for example). OTOH, I'm pretty sure that one of the Polymorph spells says that your "HP doesn't change" - this may imply no recalculating. You have to consider that this might have been put in so people didn't think they had to reroll HP every time they wildshaped (e.g. if you could wildshape to dragonform, rolling d12s for all your hit dice).

As to Scent abilities, IIRC you get (Ex) abilities but not (Su) abilities with wild shape.
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