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Weird Thing: 
22nd-Jan-2005 01:07 am
Imbas Forosnai
My friends and I were thinking about this:

What if you scribed a spell that created a demiplane for a selection on the surface of an object and anything that came in contact with said surface go to be banished to the demiplane. This spell would only really be used to create unlimited space. But what if you cast that spell on the edge of your sword and made it cut anything totally. Or if you put it on anything for that matter and it would absord all the matter of anything that came into contact with it. On that token, if you turned the whole bag of holding inside-out, would the universe be swallowed up?

Your thoughts, please...
22nd-Jan-2005 11:10 am (UTC)
Last time I checked, a bag of holding had a finite value of space inside it; moreover, most demiplane-creating spells can only create a limited-size demiplane, AFAIK.

And as a DM, I'd rule that while it happens to be a cool idea, it doesn't actually work, because that could potentially be abusive.

Anyhow, turning a bag of holding inside out just spills out the contents of the bag, IMO, and possibly destroys the bag's extradimensional space by forcing it into standard space.
22nd-Jan-2005 05:43 pm (UTC)
Although as a corollary, in a game with my friends - which usually wind up being goofy games no matter how serious they begin - we just might wind up with something like that.

It'd be about creative ways to abuse existing materials, however. ;)
22nd-Jan-2005 04:36 pm (UTC)
It would have to be a pretty high level spell, or would have some limitations. I would assume attended objects or creatures would have some sort of saving throw. I was just poking around the spell lists. Some spells that pop out to me are: Teleport Object (8), Mage's Magnificent Mansion (8), Disintegrate (6), Baleful Teleport (psi 5).

As for a weapon, look at Brilliant Energy, Vorpal, and Dislocator (psi).

I'm all about breaking rules and finding loopholes, but I usually try to find something to base it on. =)
22nd-Jan-2005 06:11 pm (UTC)
If it's going to be an enchantment on a weapon, anything hit with it would get a saving throw. There's no way to banish anything from the plane it's on if it doesn't want to be banished without first getting a saving throw.

Every demi-plane has a finite amount of space, because you're not a deity. It would eventually run out of room for stuff inside it, and most demi-plane's when they exceed their max load will either spew out all of their contents, or the oldest.

Bag's of holding have a finite amount of space as well, but it's not a demi-plane (technically), it's a pocket-dimmension. More or less the same thing, but with less danger. Turning a bag of holding inside out is the same as turning any bag inside out...everything inside the bag is now outside of the bag, but for the sake of your poor feet I would hope that the bag wasn't full, otherwise you'll have a lot of crap on top of them.
22nd-Jan-2005 10:04 pm (UTC)
You do know that you would never beable to let that sword/sword end touch another thing ever again right? (Ingnoring saving throws someone mentioned) You would never be able to sheath it, set it on the ground, put it on a table without something disappearing if you had the blade set with this sort of spell. Can you imagine having a sword like that dangling from your belt without a sheath? How many times does a normal sword bump into someone's leg? One could only imagine the consequences if one carried one of ~those~ special bladed swords now. ^-^
22nd-Jan-2005 11:05 pm (UTC)
that was my first thought. if it IS possible to make, it's still impossible to use.
23rd-Jan-2005 09:33 am (UTC)
I have all kinds of non-rules-based weird physics in my campaign. But even the rules-based stuff doesn't get played with. One player might want to play around with his bag of holding, for instance, and the other players are like, "NO!"

They never want to make wishes because other DMs have abused them about it. Jerks.

I've just never had a player check it out or try to manipulate the physical aspects of my world in any meaningful way.

Hell I even gave one fellow a puzzle item (Think something akin to a Rubik's hellcube) to try to clue him in and he never got it.
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