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9th-Sep-2008 03:31 pm
Disney-Mermaid MythandMagic
Hey, guys!

I came across an article the other day about Soveriegn press losing the rights to Dragonlance and Dragonlance.com. I've been trying to dig up some more information, but all I can figure out is that Wizards of the Coast did not renew the license with Margaret Weis et al. Okay, that happens all the time I know, but what troubles me is that every post I read says that no one at Sovereign Press knows what WotC has in mind for Dragonlance, just that it doesn't include them. And since I've heard nothing from WotC about Dragonlance in the past 8 months, I am worried. They already have Forgotten Realms and Eberron... but they wouldn't let Dragonlance die... would they?

Edit: Yes, I know that 4th edition is a big factor. I mean, when they didn't renew the liscence for code monkey publishing to sell e-tools, it made sense, and now WotC is creating D&D online to replace what e-tools did. I had assumed that because Sovereign Press had dragonlance, we would have to wait until 4th edition became open reference to get any 4th edition adventures. Now, I suppose it's possible that WotC is claiming Dragonlance so that it *can* reproduce it in 4th edition, but since we've not heard anything about it, I'm worried that they aren't planning on doing anything of the sort. And if that's the case, why did they take the liscence from Sovereign Press? What harm could it have done to let Sovereign Press continue making 3rd edition products? Basically, my fear is that WotC is being selfish and letting a good campaign die so that they can suck the most out of their pet projects. Does that make sense?
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9th-Sep-2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
As I understand it, 3.5 is being killed by WotC, and all products for it have to cease production. The 4e license is much less open, and I suspect that WotC wants to release Dragonlance for themselves.
9th-Sep-2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
Okay, see, as long as they are going to actually RELEASE it, I'm cool with that. It's like that old Aesop's Fable where the dog tried to eat the cow's hay and realized that he didn't like it, so he laid on the hay so that the cow couldn't eat it either.
9th-Sep-2008 09:33 pm (UTC)
Its not that developers have to stop producing for 3.5 in any way. THe license is an open source license, and many game developers plan to support 3.5 and descendant systems.

The issue is that the 4.0 license requires you NOT to produce any similar material for any other game system, including 3.5 .

So, in order to force Dragon lance and other properties over to 4e, WotC did not renew external licenses and will probably only license the rights to companies that sign their soul over to 4e.
9th-Sep-2008 09:57 pm (UTC)
I remember reading something that 3.5 was over, and WotC was giving companies 6 months to sell out before their license ended. I can't find that now, though. I found the email I sent someone about that, but I didn't link to the source for why I sent them that email. Sigh.
9th-Sep-2008 10:00 pm (UTC)
And the WOTC pages that say 3.5 can continue are dated about 2 weeks after I send email about 3.5 ending. It could be that WOTC changed their mind I never saw.
9th-Sep-2008 10:04 pm (UTC)
What WotC wanted is irrelevant. They released the SRD under the OGL. Which is an open source license that is irrevocable as long as it is followed.

3.5 may be dead in as much as the PHB /DMG/etc is no longer being published, but anyone can continue to support it as much as they like.
9th-Sep-2008 10:09 pm (UTC)
Yea. It could very well be that what the money makers wanted now differed from what the idealists got back with the OGL, and the OGL won!
9th-Sep-2008 08:46 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, they are only planning to release one campaign setting a year; this year is Forgotten Realms, next year is Eberron. The earliest we could expect to see some official 4E Dragonlance material is two years from now.

In the meantime, every successful, well-written 3.5 product that sells is one fewer 4E product, by their way of thinking. They want everybody drinking the new koolaid.
9th-Sep-2008 09:12 pm (UTC)
In the meantime they can continue to print all the novels they like, and with the fluff firmly in mind, 4e Dragonlance is no great challenge. Medium-size Minotaurs are even plausible at first level.

That said, there's no guarantee the license would return to Sov Press, and no real reason for Wizards' standpoint, unless SP is super($)hungry for it. Their new plan is two books and an adventure, so WotC never has any need to print more than three products in the line.
9th-Sep-2008 09:54 pm (UTC)
This year at Gen Con, a Hasbro rep was at the Dragonhearth panel (run by Tracy and Laura Hickman) and announced that Dragonlance is "alive and well" at Wizards/Hasbro and they will be making DL products for the next 25 years. He was not at liberty to officially say it, but there will be 4th ed. materials coming out too, not just the novels.
9th-Sep-2008 09:59 pm (UTC)
Oh, thank you! That's precisely the information I was looking for. :)
9th-Sep-2008 10:21 pm (UTC)
10th-Sep-2008 02:57 am (UTC)
They already have Forgotten Realms and Eberron... but they wouldn't let Dragonlance die... would they?

They should. Dragonlance is the only setting that keeps looping back in on itself. A good, solid, break -- followed by a real setting that actually focuses on D&D dragons -- would be great
11th-Sep-2008 01:17 am (UTC)
I still want DL stuff instead. I've tried the others and I'm not a fan of them. DL is the only one that keeps me coming back for more.
11th-Sep-2008 02:07 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm the same way. My group plays a little of everything - Kalamar, Forgotten Realms, Eberron and Dragonlance. I just happen to be the Dragonlance GM. There are a lot of things that I don't think Dragonlance does as good as other campaign settings, but I like how different it is. It keeps my players from getting into the "I can do anything" rut.
11th-Sep-2008 10:58 am (UTC)
I think you can do a lot with just the history. Me and my gaming group have made up a lot on our own with just having campaigns in particular times on Krynn. I'm not the kind to just want to have a dungeon crawl, beat up boss, take loot. I think being part of a larger picture is what makes DL unique in rp.
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