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Seperating 4E from 3E? 
22nd-May-2008 02:16 am
(Let me know if this is off-topic or whatever, it can be deleted, just thought it might be worth discussion.)

Since there's now a dnd4e community, is it likely/possible that all 4E content would be shifted over there?

IMHO, I have no interest in hearing reviews and gossip about the new 4E products every time a new one comes out over the next several months, or all the rules questions that are bound to come with it. I don't plan on buying any of the new WOTC products in the foreseeable future, so it's not something I'm involved in. However, I'm very interested in the new 3.x products that are coming out from third-party publishers, as well as the usual 3.x rules questions that pop up around here.

I can see the relation between 3.0 and 3.5 stuff being posted in the same place, since a great amount of it was directly translatable, and someone that had only ever played 3.0 could still understand what was going on in 3.5. From what I can tell, though, 4E is greatly different so I would think separating the two would be good.

Anyone have any opinions? Would this kill community activity? Is it just a silly thing to differentiate?
22nd-May-2008 11:51 am (UTC)
While I don't mind the cross posting (and have done so myself) I can see the reasoning to keep them separate. Maybe if this community profile mentioned that the 4E community existed, it would avoid confusion. It isn't like it is hard for people to join both communities if they want both sets of info.
22nd-May-2008 11:54 am (UTC)
I don't think that keeping this community to 3rd Edition and related topics will kill it. I have been receiving the Pathfinder Alpha Playtest releases and am very excited about the developments going on at Paizo. The rules evolution there is awesome! We could talk about Pathfinder when it is released as well as other 3.5-based products.

Like you, I don't plan to buy 4th Edition products. My wife is going to play a 4th Edition campaign, so she might buy the PHB, but she anticipates that is all she will ever need.
22nd-May-2008 12:16 pm (UTC)
The community info sums it up nicely: "talk about whatever you want as long as it relates to D&D". So be it 4e, 3.5e, 3e or 0.001betaE, I'm happy for it to be here.

As long as people who post 4e stuff to dnd3e bear in mind they're likely to get a 3e perspective, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Indeed, it may lead to informative discussions about the differences, good and bad of the systems etc.
22nd-May-2008 12:28 pm (UTC)
I think there will be enough going on to keep this community. I too am not "upgrading" to 4E, and I am also digging the Pathfinder stuff. I have a lot of 3E homebrew stuff of my own as well, so I like the idea of maintaining a 3E community for us to share thoughts, including relevant discussions about the new iteration of the game.
22nd-May-2008 05:40 pm (UTC)
All along, any news I've heard of 4e has met with mixed reactions from me. Some things I liked, others I did not. In the end, my being a tool, I'll probably be buying the 4e stuff, but it won't be for a while yet.

Personally I feel that it would be beneficial to differentiate 3e and 4e, simply because they're so radically different, as you stated. However, anything that falls under the category of "not really in any edition" (whatever that may turn out to be) shouldn't meet with any problems.
22nd-May-2008 06:17 pm (UTC)
4th is to 3rd is to 2nd, and, really, should probably be treated as such. I'm cool with separation of the two. A lot of the rules I use are still out of 3.0 (I'm a Scarred Lands fanatic, and am dragging my players into the breach with me), and am very interested in the Pathfinder thing, especially given that they've hired Monte Cooke over there...

So yeah. Link 4E in the profile, and let them go over there.
23rd-May-2008 01:50 am (UTC) - I don't find it silly to seperate.
Having prodded the Quick Start Guide from the Keep of the Shadowfell adventure, 4e is _wildly_ different from 3.x.

And having two groups performs a very unsilly function. People who have absolutely no interest in 4e simply don't add the 4e group to their friends list, and they get no 4e content to weed and filter through.

With the proper layout, people who are members of both the 3e and 4e groups won't have huge amounts of screen real estate stolen by the tiny "dnd3e" or "dnd4e" tags, so thats a non-issue.

I don't see it killing activity either, since all one does is write their post as normal, then from the drop down list, selects which version of dnd it applies to (rather, which group to post to). However, if people love 4e and stop caring so much for 3.5.. the 3e group will see lower activity, but the 4e group will see increased activity.

It's also possible a lot of people will find 4e a flop and remain with 3e. So... Dunno really. What I do know though is that it's fruitless to try to maintain activity in a community based on a product people don't like; it would be a waste of time to maintain the 4e side of things if it flops and it would be a waste of time to maintain the 3e side of things if almost everyone abandons it.
23rd-May-2008 05:27 pm (UTC)
Unlike many of you who have replied, I am planning on investing in the 4e books, though I do not yet know when my group will officially switch over. So, for me, getting information on both 3rd and 4th editions is valuable. However, it is precisely because of that fact that I agree with the poster. I am a member of both the dnd3e and dnd4e communities and they are both on my friend's page. Encouraging people to put their ideas in the edition approapriate communities makes it easier for me to see what I'm reading about (is it the 3e community or the 4e one?) when things get more complicated and 4e has a lot more adventures, for example. In addition, it keeps people from x-posted as much, which clogs up my friends page more. So, my point is that though I look at the discussion from a different direction, I agree with this suggestion.
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26th-May-2008 02:27 pm (UTC)
I'm afraid I will not be joining the 4e community.
27th-May-2008 05:27 pm (UTC)
Any particular reason? Are you saying that 4E content should be posted here?
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