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D20 question: Divination specialist 
21st-Nov-2005 05:12 pm
DrG Don't know me
I've been working on a character concept, and I could us a bit of help. What I want to create is that "creepy old hag-lady" whose specialty is insight and divination. She's the old lady who pees in a cup and makes weird concoctions, goes into trances and sees into the future, reads palms and tea leaves and rune stones, studies the stars for signs and portents, that kinda thing. I got the inspiration mainly from the old witch in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, and the weird stinky mystic lady in the later seasons of Farscape.

I've got the background and stuff worked out, and now all that is left is the determination of class and skills. Using the D20 3.5 rules and various supplements, what would you guys suggest? Divination specialist wizards just don't have the spell selection Im looking for, and clerics have that whole God thing that really doesn't fit with her theme. What's a good class for divination, future-seeing, and fortune-telling?

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22nd-Nov-2005 01:23 am (UTC)
Depending on the level of the character you are talking about, I would build her as a sorcerer with the Divine Oracle prestige class. This class will give your sorcerer access to the Oracle domain, which includes spells like 'augury', 'divination', and 'commune' that a sorcerer would not otherwise have.

The class is in the Complete Divine. It grants spells, but is not divine-spellcaster-specific. Minimum character level would be 6 (sor 5, divine oracle 1).

Alternately, build the character as an Archivist from the new Heroes of Horror book. These characters prepare divine spells, but from out of a book (like a wizard's spellbook). They have a number of other class features which don't really resemble your concept, but it would give you the spells you want with less of a direct tie to the gods.

Heroes of Horror also has a couple of witchy prestige classes which would do what you want.

Good luck,
22nd-Nov-2005 01:54 am (UTC)
Hey that's good. I forgot about that class, mainly because I thought they had to be clerics. Thanks!
22nd-Nov-2005 01:27 am (UTC)
I would go Druid if you are shooting for the Farscape 'Witch'. Give her a ton of alchemy/herbalism skills. Go for infusions over potions thou. The whole 'Eat this stink root and you will feel better.' works better than the 'Drink this healing potion'. As far as spell selection goes I am sure you creat a special spell list for her with some new divinations that dont quite work the same way. You can maybe go with some incantations as opposed to spells. (Especially if you have rules lawyers for players who want to know what spells she is casting, just tell them its an incantation of her own creation)

22nd-Nov-2005 01:55 am (UTC)
If you were willing to go outside the box a little, I'd suggest looking at the NPC class Adept. It's not quite perfect though, lacking a lot of the future type spells.
22nd-Nov-2005 02:38 am (UTC)
You could always go with a cleric that has ties to no deity-- you can do that in the rules. Just pick two domains. Knolwedge and magic may be good choices. And multi-classing with sorcerer (or diviner wizard) may be a good choice, depending on how you want to take it.

Although I like the Druid idea mentioned above. Sounds rather a lot like Noranti.
22nd-Nov-2005 03:43 am (UTC)
She's the old lady who pees in a cup...

22nd-Nov-2005 03:47 am (UTC)
Hahahahahah you're the first person to respond to that part =)
22nd-Nov-2005 07:18 am (UTC)
I knew a lady who peed in soda bottles and kept them in a row next to her bed.
22nd-Nov-2005 01:43 pm (UTC)
A clarsentient psion. Or, look at the divination varients in Unearthed Arcana.
22nd-Nov-2005 02:56 pm (UTC) - OK I have a couple suggestions for you because I use characters like this a lot
Okay, for starters ir really depends on what level your looking for here, because higher levels opens up the prestige classes which is just rock.
1. Spirit shaman- I love this class for NPC's. its the druid spell list only you get to interact with spirits, which are basically everything and everywhere. Very good for the creeepy old hag type, especially in a tribal society or out in the wilderness. a green hag with this class is just an awesome NPC, and I persoanlly love to haggle around alighnment.
2. also from complete divine, the Shugenja. its like sorcerer for divine spells, the only difference is its element based instead of all holy and stuff. I would go with air or water based for this class.
3. WHen messed with a little bit, my favourite diviner of all time was a mix of Divine oracle inmittent with contemplative. it was a slow progression, but when you take the Dream and Oracle domains, and mess around a little bit you get some very interesting spellcasting.
4. From the heroes of horror book you have the archivist. they are a great base class and the dark knowledge ability really is useful for this type of thing if you play it right. the spell casting isn't quite what your looking for probably, but if worked right im sure it could be wonderful.
hmmmm... thats about all off the top of my head. anyway, have fun.
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