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23rd-Sep-2005 11:07 am
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Ok, almost every one knows about the Chosen of Mystra template. Does any one know where or even know what the special abilities for a chosen of Mielikki are? If no one knows would any one be able to help me put one together?
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23rd-Sep-2005 06:08 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
Wait up, the silver fire doesn't allow a saving throw, except to check for a critical hit? Since when can you crit on a saving throw?
23rd-Sep-2005 06:12 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
Unfortunately I can't open the link on the computer I'm at...
23rd-Sep-2005 06:13 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
If the spell requires an attack roll, than a critical hit is possible (i.e. ranged touch or touch attack eg. shocking grasp, melf's acid arrow).
23rd-Sep-2005 06:14 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
I understand crits w/attack rolls, but description was of a line effect
23rd-Sep-2005 06:16 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
I'd have to go home and get out my phb, but as far as I know if you have to roll to attack/hit, then you can get a crit.
23rd-Sep-2005 06:35 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
But, you don't have to roll to hit. Description is:

"Once every 7 turns, a Chosen can unleash from within his or her body a beam of magical whitish flame known as silver fire (which is also used as a general name for the overall invested in each of her Chosen by the goddess). This beam is 5 feet wide and can be made to extend as far as 70 feet if desired. No magical or physical barrier has been discovered that can stand up against it, and the beam inflicts 4d12 points of damage (no saving throw allowed, except for the purposes of checking for a critical hit) on all beings struck by it."

No attack roll, but it can apparently crit because of a saving throw (although which save?) - it doesn't make much sense.
23rd-Sep-2005 06:45 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
Thanks. I was looking for the description. In any event, I haven't a clue how it can crit from that description but I'd put forth that it's just generally accepted that the spell is going to hit and do damage and that the saving throw v crit comes in if it's going to kill off a PC. But without having the phb with the spell in it, I can't tell you more.
23rd-Sep-2005 09:18 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
Um, this wouldn't be in the phb at all.
24th-Sep-2005 04:07 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
Yeah, it's a 2nd Edition description
23rd-Sep-2005 07:02 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
and this is for the chosen of Mielikki
23rd-Sep-2005 09:28 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
Looks like a 2nd ed description...
23rd-Sep-2005 08:53 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
Thanks, not really what I was looking for though
23rd-Sep-2005 09:14 pm (UTC) - Re: This is what I found if it helps
I'm wanting to know what ablities a chosen of Mielikki gets.
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