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Hi fellas, quick question - Which book has rules for playing an… 
17th-May-2005 05:28 pm
Hi fellas, quick question -

Which book has rules for playing an angel? I'm interested in playing an angel for an upcomming campaign, but I can't for the life of me remember which book the damn rules are in, lol. Anyone feel like helping out? :P
17th-May-2005 09:45 pm (UTC)
Sean K. Reynolds wrote one called "Anger of Angels" that may be what you're looking for.
17th-May-2005 09:52 pm (UTC)

So I guess there are actually no rules for playing angels as a race? 0.o

17th-May-2005 09:55 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry, I'm an idiot. I just looked up what you were talking about and that's what I'm looking for. Thanks very much, man :)

17th-May-2005 09:45 pm (UTC)
There's always the Half Celestial template...but that's a Half Angel.
17th-May-2005 09:51 pm (UTC)
What book is that found in? 0.o

17th-May-2005 09:57 pm (UTC)
Good ol' Monster Manual 3.5, page 144.
17th-May-2005 10:06 pm (UTC)
Hah, thank you very much :)

17th-May-2005 09:59 pm (UTC)
There's also the aasimar in the Planar Handbook, which is a quarter celestial, and they have a much lower ECL. In the game I'm running right now, one of my PCs actually is playing that race. However, aasimars don't get the huge nifty wings and uber special spell-like abilities the Half Celestial does, just a daylight spell and some resistances and such. Great for roleplaying and character background, though--I made him the grandchild of one of the Seven Seraphim, my high order of angels in Celestia, hehe.
17th-May-2005 10:08 pm (UTC)
I'll give that a look over. I think I can deal with the level adjustment penalties for playing a half-celestial though. I think it could be really fun. Again thanks a bunch :)

18th-May-2005 12:55 pm (UTC)
There is a feat you can get so an Aasimar can get wings
17th-May-2005 09:52 pm (UTC)
I'm going to guess either Savage Species (I see various celestials, but not 'angel') or Exhaulted Deeds (various prestige classes and new 'monster' lists but no new races)... depending on what you're looking for.

however Dragon #321 (July 04) has info on the "Infused" which are Angelic character prestige classes... you bond with an extra-planar and move towards one of the divine types (Astral Deva, Planetar, Solar, Lantern Archon, Hound Archon, Trumpet Archon, Bralani, Ghaele, Avoral or Leonal).

17th-May-2005 10:00 pm (UTC)
Is Savage Species any good? That's one of the few Wizards books I've just never picked up. I haven't even given it the time of day at the bookstore. I've heard it's obscenely complicated.
17th-May-2005 10:05 pm (UTC)
yup, the ECL calculation never made sense to me...

but if you want to play a 'monstyer' class it's a must. i'm thinking the new DMG II that's coming out will tweak the way it works, but that's just my theory.

I use the CR+1 and that's the level you can start that character at approach... but that's just my group... none of us has played anything other than the normal races.

17th-May-2005 10:07 pm (UTC)
I don't even allow monsters as playable characters, because I already offer a ton of races from the Legends and Lore: Mythic Races book plus like five different Wizards books (it's over 20 races), and I think that's quite enough variety. I also let people apply templates to their characters, but isn't that a little different?

I'm excited about the DMGII. Maybe I'll wait for that to come out before considering Savage Species.
17th-May-2005 10:09 pm (UTC)
I'll check that out and see what I find. Thanks for the suggestion.

18th-May-2005 11:23 am (UTC)
Savage Species does have writeups for playing Archons and Astral Devas, broken out a level at a time so first you take, say, eight or twelve or however many hit dice the Archon has, then you start taking class levels. This is problematic for the Astral Deva because they have 20 hd... so you don't get to take any class levels until you're Epic. Now, to be fair, they're pretty tough, but still. You lose a lot of the variety and fun of figuring out where you're character's going to be in six levels if you can look at the chart and say, "Oh. That's where he'll be." One of the big things they got away from with 3E.
17th-May-2005 10:00 pm (UTC)
There's a handful of celestial monster racews in Planar Handbook.
17th-May-2005 10:01 pm (UTC)
A handful? I can only think of the aasimar...the other ones aren't celestial related, are they? The tiefling is a quarter infernal, I remember that...then there's a spiker in there, if I remember right...which one is celestial blooded other than the aasimar???
17th-May-2005 10:08 pm (UTC)
Avoral Guardinal is very angelic (though way overpowered, in my opinion).
17th-May-2005 10:13 pm (UTC)
I don't have the book, but I remember mention of monster race progressions ( like in Savage Species) for things like some Guardinals maybe an Angel or Eladrin
17th-May-2005 10:09 pm (UTC)
Thanks, man. I'll give it a read through and see if anything catches my eye.

18th-May-2005 02:30 am (UTC)
Anger of Angels by Sean K Reynolds for Malhavoc Press

I was a playtester on it. Good book.
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