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Raise Dead issues. 
5th-May-2005 08:46 am
Can fairies be brought back using Raise Dead or Ressurection? They are born from magic from my world. I feel like this would make them Magical Beasts, as well as the Fey subtype. What do you think?
5th-May-2005 04:05 pm (UTC)
On Writh, I would give this an unequivocable 'no'. Fae who die on my world become a part of the magic of the world, and wouldn't /want/ to come back (a requirement oif those spells). There wouldn't be exceptions to this one .... it's like reaching Nirvana or something. :)

In a core D&D world? Yes. I believe they can be. I don't recall any rule specifically prohibiting it.

On your world? Well it's really up to you! Do you want them to be able to come back? As I recall, you have a fairy PC. If she dies, does she want to come back? Remember always that that's a requirement of the spell. She has to want it. Ask the player to help you make this decision, I say.
5th-May-2005 04:05 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't mess with the species distinctions. Those are there for mechanical reasons. (If you make it a magical beast, well, then you can apply certain templates, and you have to give them different hit dice, etc).

Unless, you are doing it because you want to alter something mechanically, that is.

As for the rest- thats a GM call. Can fairies be brought back with raise dead (or miracle? or Resureection? Or Wish) .. Well, I don't really see why not.

But it's not my call, it's yours. It's your world. Just make sure the players are aware of what your decision is and be consistent.
5th-May-2005 04:07 pm (UTC)
Well, just because they're borne of magic, doesn't necissarily make them magical beasts. Magical beast is intended for something that is like an animal, but has an intelligence score higher than 2. They can still be Fey and be borne of magic. And I believe that Raise Dead and Ressurection would work on Fey.
5th-May-2005 04:29 pm (UTC)
The pixie in my game died and was raised. However I (partly due to the mistake of allowing the character in the first place-permanent invisibility is a nightmare) decided that. as she was raised in the normal world rather than in fairie, her nature changed somewhat(in this case, her invisibility became invisibility rather than improved invisibility), and I quite liked that as a way of doing it. I have applied that since too with other non-natural(sort of) characters. It made the whole process more interesting, it meant that death had consequences too which is something it tends to lack in D+D sometimes.
5th-May-2005 05:10 pm (UTC)

"... Constructs, elementals, outsiders, and undead creatures can’t be raised. The spell cannot bring back a creature that has died of old age."

I don't see "Fey" on the list... =)

I could see reasons why a house rule could be made that is an exception, but that is a different issue. You could also require that they come back reincarnated rather than in their original form. See the Reincarnate spell.

5th-May-2005 07:48 pm (UTC)
Agree with most everything here. Fey can come back unless you have a specific "in my world" reason not to.

Nonononono on Fey as Magical Beasts. The Fey creature type is already a creature of magic, and fey are definately not beasts, magical or not.

There are exceptions, of course. Redcaps are pretty beastly. And that thing Hellboy fought on the bridge in the Corpse was nasty, too. But I don't think that the fey need any mechanical boost to making them magical.

(Yes, I know that just being "beastly" doesn't make you a Magical Beast, and Redcaps certainly still qualify as fey, I'm joking, haha).
5th-May-2005 10:46 pm (UTC)
I'd say no on Raise Dead. But if you clap your hands really hard . . .
6th-May-2005 12:10 pm (UTC)
I think the planar book covered this - Outsiders can't be resurrected (unless through true resurrection - if I remember correctly) unless they want to use a wish, however in the planar book I think they presented a few spells to help solve this problem.
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