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i can't remember, can ethereal creatures see invisible creatures on… 
5th-Oct-2004 04:16 pm
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i can't remember, can ethereal creatures see invisible creatures on the material plane?
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5th-Oct-2004 01:37 pm (UTC)
Not just because they're ethereal, no.
5th-Oct-2004 01:44 pm (UTC)
i thought they could. i guess what i mean is, if you're invisible on the ethereal plane, does that mean you're also invisible on the ethereal plane? i suppose you would have to be or there would be a spell called "ethereal invisibility" or something.
5th-Oct-2004 01:47 pm (UTC)
if you're invisible on the ethereal plane, does that mean you're also invisible on the ethereal plane?

Yes. And you're also invisible to someone astrally projecting, looking through a telescope, scrying from the outer planes, standing right next to you, etc., etc.

In RPGs, a condition stands and is constant save for limitations in its own description or exceptions in something else's description. If Ethereal creatures could see material and invisible creatures, either the description of "etheral" or "invisible" would make mention of it.
5th-Oct-2004 01:50 pm (UTC)
Right. Invisibility is in no way related to ethereality in 3.xE. Allowing "See Invisible" to show Ethereal beings was just dumb in my opinion.
5th-Oct-2004 01:52 pm (UTC)
No.
5th-Oct-2004 08:06 pm (UTC)
I don't know about that, but I do know I love Frank Zappa.
5th-Oct-2004 08:28 pm (UTC)
and i love richard bach.
5th-Oct-2004 08:30 pm (UTC)
totally off-topic but if you liked illusions you should read the lazy man's guide to enlightenment
6th-Oct-2004 07:11 pm (UTC) - yay!
haha my post was quite off-topic as well, but thanks for the book! it looks really neat...I may just have to pick it up.

I, too, love Richard Bach. (in case that wasn't obvious already hehe) Read any other books by him? I've read "The Bridge Across Foreve" as well, and its a really pretty story.

6th-Oct-2004 07:26 pm (UTC) - Re: yay!
only illusions and jonathan livingston seagull. i liked illusions a lot.
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